Wayne Rooney and Ty Rose I The Advantage Of Investing In The American Player: #AskASoccerPro Show Ep. 066
11-year MLS veteran Quincy Amarikwa is joined by legendary striker, Wayne Rooney, and top youth development coach, Ty Rose. Listen in as they discuss MLS, supporting the current professional players, and developing the next generation!
Here’s what Quincy, Wayne, and Ty cover:
00:00 - 02:35: Wayne Rooney joins the #AskASoccerPro Show!
02:36 - 07:54: Wayne Rooney On Adapting to Times Like This
07:54 -11:41: Wayne Rooney: MLS Needs to Protect American Players
11:42 - 14:27: Wayne Rooney On Owners Are Taking Advantage Of American Players
14: 28 - 16:34: Wayne Rooney: We’re All Equals
16:35 – 19:30: Coach Ty Rose Joins The #AskASoccerPro Show!
19: 31 – 26:13: The Advantage of Developing Players
26:14 – 30:20: Keeping Players Motivated
30:21 – 36:24: Coaching Through A Pandemic
36:25 – 42:18: Connecting with a Coach
42:19 – 47:59: The Most Difficult Thing
48:00 – 53:09: It’s Okay to Disagree with The Coach
53:10 – 59:56: Support the Team!
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Quincy Amarikwa (00:00):
What was Ty's last name? Rose. Rose second. His name is tight rail. Okay, we shut that all the way. 66 yo, what up Georgie? What's happening? 37 Shannon, welcome. Welcome. Gregory. What's going on Alexis? What's happening? What's happening? The Luca. What's going on? Carly Perez. Welcome in. Welcome in New York city FC. What's happening? Ernie, you guys a Joe Jackson. What's going on guys? Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. I'm going to tell you to hold on a second. You're going to be in for a amazing treat. An amazing treat. Okay, so hold on one second. Make sure you guys don't go anywhere. Make sure you don't go anywhere. Just one second.
Quincy Amarikwa (00:54):
Yo Wayne, what's going? Oh, let me turn this up. Wayne. What's going on brother? What up everybody dropping in your arm and your head emojis. Let me see what's going on. You guys know what it is. It's another episode of the hashtag ask a soccer pro show with your host. 11 year mols, bro. Hey, hold on a little one. I know. Go out to you about that everybody. My son just ran in here naked. Wayne. Let me, let me buzzy in bro. Yo, hold on one second guys. Let me see what I'm looking for. There we go. Wayne, I'm going to F w Oh, there we go man. I know this stupid thing when you should be able to buzz in and bro,
Quincy Amarikwa (02:09):
Hello. There we go.
Quincy Amarikwa (02:14):
Special guest for you guys when you can just buzz it was good.
Quincy Amarikwa (02:21):
Quincy Amarikwa (02:22):
What's good brother?
Wayne Rooney (02:24):
I'm good How are you?
Quincy Amarikwa (02:24):
I'm good man. Got set up for the show. You know, we do the show every Thursday. You, you know, you out here with me in DC, bro. Still got the show going strong. How you been?
Quincy Amarikwa (02:35):
Yeah, I've been good to him. It's difficult time for everyone. For, for you, for me, for everyone. Families. For everyone to difficult time, so we have to just be as positive as we can.
New Speaker (02:53):
Got you brother. Yeah, I know. You just kind of gave me a call, which was, which was dope is great to hear from you, man. I know it,
Quincy Amarikwa (02:59):
It is difficult times like you're saying. But as you know, I'm at SOC pro. Should we talk about the MSL or the mental strength league, you know, so everyone can figure out how best to adapt during difficult times like this. I'm really happy you're able to jump in for a little bit with how everything is kind of going. What do you think are a couple things that, what are a couple of things you feel that people can be mindful of that will help them get through this time?
Wayne Rooney (03:32):
I don't know. I think in terms of what, in terms of, of, of, of football or soccer or in terms of life was what, what you mean?
Quincy Amarikwa (03:42):
I love that. See, I love that. That's high level thinking, bro. What are some, what are some lessons that you've learned that have helped you be successful on the field that you feel apply to? What the uncertainty of kind of what's going on in the world for everybody right now?
Wayne Rooney (03:57):
I think first of all in terms of on the field is being as unique being as honest as you can be. Because if you're honest with yourself, honest with your teammates you'll earn respect from them. Teammates. I come off with the MLS in and as like a great time, but I also, I'll took in a culture I took in my teammates. I really enjoyed it. And then in terms of life, we're all in a very, very difficult position where let's you, you know, try and get through it, but all in a very, very bad situation. Let's get through it. There's going to be pay cuts to come be people losing money, losing jobs that you get through. [inaudible]
Quincy Amarikwa (04:52):
Got you. What do you I really like, I really like what you mentioned in terms of like honesty. The first core value here at perfect soccer is self honesty. That's what we talk a lot about, a lot of self reflection and understanding. What you can do to prepare and what you can do to be better. So during a time like this, many people feel as though, you know, you can't prepare for this. This is unpredictable. No one was seeing something like this happening even though that might be the case now, what do you feel dyes should be focusing on guys and girls should be focusing on most in this time?
Wayne Rooney (05:29):
Getting through it, living. I think that's the most important thing for this situation. But I think as you said, no one can prepare for this. No one in, in the world can prepare for what's happened. But I think in general when we get through this, we will us through this. When we do get through this, prepare for life after whatever job you do, doing, prepare for life after football, after politics will every year. Your job in title is prepare for your life after that because no one knows this might happen again. And one of those, you have to be in the best position to handle yourself, to look after yourself, huffy a family. And it's it's strange times. It's very strange time for everyone, for, for those over in England, for use in America. It's, it's a very difficult time to, one thing I want to say is for, for me playing in MLS, I fear for them players in MLS because I know how the MLS is run. I know it's run. Yup. And I very do fear for the players in the next two or three months.
Quincy Amarikwa (06:47):
Got you. I don't disagree with you. I think, I think, you know, cause we, you know, we, we we spent a lot of time talking at length last year about just the difference of how it works here in the U S versus back in the U K the kind of assurances they have in the UK versus how it operates here.
Wayne Rooney (07:09):
Don't get me wrong, it's going to be a very difficult situation in the U K also. So me coming back to the UK and realizing the difficulties from a being the UK made me think they're having these difficulties in the UK. What's it going to be like in the MLS? It's going to be 10 times worse. So that's why I'm thinking this is a very bad situation for everyone. But the lads in MLS who aren't getting paid nowhere near as much money is in, in England. A fear for them and the players union have to protect them. Players they have to.
Quincy Amarikwa (07:54):
New Speaker (07:55):
What do you, what do you feel are some things that we could we should be mindful of or things that we should I won't, I won't say demand but expect?
Wayne Rooney (08:10):
I think the first thing you can expect is probably a 0% salary coming in. And that's my honest opinion. I think that's the way that the MLS will roll, I hope they don't because that will be disastrous. I think the best thing you could expect is football will get played again very soon and the MLS will try and protect them players. The owners who have lived on this franchise and every, and they gonna pay millions get millions... Back from the franchise. But put very little in. They have to understand now is their time. Now is the time to protect the MLS, protect the players because if they don't the MLS will move back 10 years.
Quincy Amarikwa (09:02):
Yes. Yup. No, I agree. I know, I mean there a lot of positive and a lot of great things that you, I know you love to about being in the States and, and for, for all the issues that there are with the league, there are a lot of benefits and upside to that as well to what did you see as being what do you, what, what, what makes you believe that MLS is something that will be a really big top league in the future when they get these things right?
Wayne Rooney (09:30):
There's so much potential, so much potential in terms of you see the Olympic sports in the States here, basketball, NFL hockey and whatever there's much potential with so much market and the so much products there to be so big. I don't think I said that before. I left in DC, the have to go on the RealD which the investee order could take and they have to be asked to bring in a open salary, which although it'd be more money on the and all the rest of the sports in the U S don't do that. But if they want to get to the level we want to get to in football or soccer, you have to act because otherwise they'll never get there. They've always got players in like myself, like Zlatan comes to the ends of careers and we can give you so much but, we can't give you, I couldn't, I can't give DC Wayne Rooney from 20 years ago.
Wayne Rooney (10:38):
Zlatan can't give himself from 10 years ago. We can give you ourselves from now where we can go here and we can end a decent amount of money and give the Lexia yourself or the, or the players or the fund something to look out and a bit of entertainment. But we can't give you a full potential if they want players at their full potential. They have to take the salary cap off. And the one thing, I think the big thing to me leaving it, and it's still now deep inside of me, is the have to look after the American players. They have to, they might have, can place being there to, no different to the South American, the English, the Spanish, the whatever nationality, you know, the American players work just as hard, if not harder. Folk have taken advantage of. Yeah.
Quincy Amarikwa (11:42):
And yeah, I was, I was actually gonna I was gonna ask you about that and I'm glad you brought it up. And we've talked about that here on the show, especially in the past as well too. And I think the culture here has always been to take advantage of American players so people might not necessarily see that happening. So from kind of like, from your perspective, how did you see, how did you see that and what, what was that like? What was that like learning how it worked here and how, how American players were taken advantage of?
Wayne Rooney (12:14):
I didn't realize, you obviously follow Amber. When I got the machine in my first week we have the player to be finished training and Eagle told you there's you getting sounds fairs on to somewhere else. And I was like, wow, you coming from town? I was like, what's going on here? Why? Where's he gone put a Z? What's going on? So it's difficult to know. I spoke to Steve a lot and it just didn't surprise me. I was like, can they do that? Is that, is it easiest to do? Is that easy to actually move along, get wisdom? And there's no faults beyond that in terms of display myself, a family, myself, children and myself.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Wayne Rooney (13:02):
Well I've learned it. I live here for [inaudible]. Micah told my wife move on. I don't know if that works in basketball and NFL [inaudible] the template is they get paid millions and millions of pounds, so they can afford to actually do that. When MLS plays cons, they get I think we probably a small percentage of money, which won't even cover the bills, won't even call the walk the have to live on. So it's, it's wrong for that to happen. And I think the MLS need to bear look at that because I think from CNN, a lot of them owners, a lot of the owner of the MLS is taking advantage of the league, which is effective American players and it might benefit for me, I went there for 18 months is LA times. I have two years. We've benefited, benefited from getting a good reputation in the USA and scoring a few goals, whatever, Paul, for the guys who you need behind, which I've never gotten to speak to or speak to Steve and it's still, shit's wrong with me deep inside me, which I don't think that's the case with all phone plays. You're coming in because you don't build them relationships.
Quincy Amarikwa (14:30):
Why do you, why do you feel, what, what made you kind of build those relationships? You think that's just kind of who you are or like how, what, what, what, what? Cause we, we talked about that a lot and I, I was always, I always admired your
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Quincy Amarikwa (14:47):
Your willingness to get to know your players and your willingness to put your, put yourself in front of players. That's what I've always respected a lot about you. You're, you're not afraid to say what's right as opposed to doing what's easy, which is something I'd never saw out of a lot of foreign guys who came into our league. You know, they'd see it as an opportunity to make some money, be on vacation and then bounce. And I always saw you working hard to understand the issues in the locker room, understand the issues with the union. I mean you came in and spoke spoken hours at length with, with us when we came with Letty booth and, and Ty harden and I'd never seen a DP take initiative like that and I really appreciated that and respect that of you. So like why do you, what, what drew you to want to, to be an active member and to be involved in even to kind of come here again and connect and talk about this right now
Wayne Rooney (15:42):
Because okay. I've built relationships with players and in my opinion, every single one of the players I played with at DC United is my equal. So I'm not above any of them players. So when I see what's going on with the league, I want to, if I, that's not any voice at all or not, I will. So you my equal and seize my equal, Bill's my equal role equals so, but that have played Manchester United in the past or would say in the past, but all equal.
Quincy Amarikwa (16:35):
No, I appreciate, I appreciate that. My Sago, Mike Omaze
Wayne Rooney (16:40):
We in my phone.
Quincy Amarikwa (16:42):
Oh no, it's all good. Yeah, I think you're [inaudible].
Quincy Amarikwa (16:55):
You hear me?
Quincy Amarikwa (16:57):
Oh no. So maybe maybe we'll get Wayne back in here in a minute, but yeah. Love that dude, man. He's a good guy. And we always had some great conversations and stuff, so if he hops back in, that's great. But that was the, that was a little a surprise for you guys. He gave me a call and said he wanted to call in and speak for a little bit, so I was used to have him join in. But today's special guest is Ty Rose. Shout out a tie Rose tie if you are in, if yo what up done. Thanks for dropping in a tie. Can you drop a, drop a comment or something so I can find you on your account and we can make sure that we get you in here. I'm excited for today's episode because we are having Thai who was awarded coach of the year this year and last year one back to back central section division, I'm sorry, central section division titles and has a current state rake of 29 in the national ranking of 94, but most importantly, he comes from my hometown, Bakersfield, California. So I'm juiced to talk to tie. A lot of you guys were wanting to hear from a coach's perspective, get an understanding of ways in which you can improve and, and be a, there we go. What's up Ty? B. What coaches are looking for? Yes. Or shut up a shout out Bakersfield. Joe, what's going on?
Quincy Amarikwa (18:34):
You know what's going on? A tie. You doing brother?
Ty Rose (18:36):
Hey, good. How are you doing?
Quincy Amarikwa (18:37):
I'm good man. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. how you been?
Ty Rose (18:43):
I've been just enjoying some family time with the, the quarantine and just trying to get through it like everybody else. But
Quincy Amarikwa (18:54):
No, I'm glad to hear that. So.
Quincy Amarikwa (18:58):
So we're want to bring it all together here. So as you, as you know, Katie works for us here at perfect soccer. She's awesome. She's a rockstar. She had let us know that you would be an amazing, perfect guest for the show that you've been doing some amazing work back there in California, Bakersfield, California. My hometown. I'm not sure. Are you born and raised in Bakersfield?
Ty Rose (19:22):
I was born in Texas, but I'm been in Baker, sold most of my life, so pretty much all Bakersville.
Quincy Amarikwa (19:31):
Gotcha. So how how before we kind of get into it and got guys, everybody here spam that heart button. Thank Ty for joining and dropping your arm, your head emojis, and here's your chance to speak to a coach, get your questions answered and we can kind of have the dynamic. So Thai, I like the, I like to show it to be more open, open-ended. We taking questions from the community, but I also like to do what's the mental breakdown. So we really understand your mentality, your philosophy, and how you've been able to create a successful program with very limited resources, which is my understanding of kind of where, where you started out with the club your, would you, would you please give us kind of a background as to who you are, what you're doing and how you got to where you're at right now?
Ty Rose (20:17):
Oh, well I teach and I coach at, at Foothill high school and you know, how I got where I am is just building a program. I think once I took over as the, the varsity boys coach, I had some ideas about what a good program might be and it took me awhile to get it fully implemented. But now I can sit here today and, and be pretty, pretty happy with the finished product and where we're headed and the kind of student athletes that, that are coming out of the program and, and soccer players as well. And so it's been a, a rewarding experience. It's a tough job. When I took it, I knew I was gonna face some, some challenges. But they, the, the kids there are, are, are great and we've been able to build something pretty special on the East side of Bakersfield.
Quincy Amarikwa (21:15):
Nice. So what do you feel, what do you feel has allowed you to, to figure it out? What if you said it's, it comes down to one thing that has allowed me to remain focus on, so I could get to where you're saying you've got a finalized product. What, what would you say that one thing is?
Ty Rose (21:34):
I'd say the one thing is, is I owe a lot to my assistant coaches at the lower level. You know, we depend a lot on player development. We don't get a lot of clubs, soccer kids. We don't get a lot of kids that have, you know, elite coaches and training when they're growing up. But we have some very talented kids. And so I knew that if I could have something consistent for them at the lower levels and, and have him for four years and, and really develop their, their talents and make them better players, then that was going to be our way to compete with some of these other schools that maybe have a higher pedigree or whatever it might be with coaching. And so I knew that was going to be the key. So we have a lot of consistency in what I'm expecting at my lower levels and it translates right into, you know, what I'm trying to do at the varsity level. And so I say that'd be the number one key of what we've been able to do.
Quincy Amarikwa (22:31):
Got you. And I, okay. So let's kinda, let's go along the lines of the theme of consistency. Cause I heard that that was kind of that was what stood out to me in, in what you were explaining there in terms of player development, right? Consistency is key in, in, in player development. So, so for a lot of the kids here who are, who don't play for their local club or don't have a club team, might not be able to afford a club team, can't travel to one or you know, high school is the only level that they're able to play at. A lot of them, especially in the comments section I've noticed are feeling that they're at a disadvantage because of that. And in some ways they are. But what do you, what do you see, what do you see they have that the kids who have all the, all of the training and the resources and the money, what advantage do you see that those kids have that the kids that have everything?
Ty Rose (23:25):
Yeah. Well, you know, this is our slogan a couple of years ago. Heart over height. And I think, I think the kids that I coach have have a lot of heart and they might not have everything spoonfed to them. But you know, sometimes there's, there's two paths in life and the, the easy road is, is easy, but the, the tough muddy road makes you stronger along the way, you know? And so these kids they're taking the, the harder road a lot of them are and they come out stronger for it. You know, they don't let it their, their circumstances or where they're from determine their, their outcomes. And I love coaching where I coach, I've coached on you know, maybe that some wealthier schools and I love those kids too, but the, the work ethic and you know, they're, you ask them to do something and they're going to do it and they're going to work hard and not be afraid of, of working hard. And I think that's the advantage that, that they would have over someone else that is maybe given more.
Quincy Amarikwa (24:35):
Got you. I love that we what we talked about here is your disadvantages, your advantage and we, we developed a longterm winners mindset here, right? So if we can look at our disadvantage and we embrace it in the short term way, it might be the reason why we lose, but it will be the reason why we win in the long term. So I love that, you know, heart over hype very much aligns with that ethos and that, that philosophy. And I think too, to the point of the things that we talked about here in terms of finding success at whatever level you're at and achieving wherever you want to get to you, I think it, it transcends every level that you're at. So it's really, it's really awesome to hear that you see that same parallel and it's always good for the kids to hear it from multiple perspectives, you know, multiple angles.
Quincy Amarikwa (25:23):
So they know when, when coach is telling them this and you know, and maybe a pro player comes in and says, Hey, listen, your coach, he's, he's saying the same things. Sometimes it just sinks. So then a little bit different, which is, which is what we're hoping to achieve here. And I, hopefully a lot of you guys are getting something out of this. So every one of those span, that heart button, if you're loving heart over-hype cause I'm loving that. I like that. That's a, that's a good one man.
Quincy Amarikwa (25:47):
UI know you've got a couple of your players are jumping in here and saying what's up? I don't know if you know all their Instagram handles or not. UI do. Let's see. You got ghosty,usaid Hey, what's going on? UShaya S H I a underscore two X said coach Chicho.
Ty Rose (26:10):
That's a, that's a, yeah, one of my frost off coats.
Quincy Amarikwa (26:14):
Oh, that's what's up. Yeah. See everyone's spamming that heart button right there. Who, who aligns with heart over hype. Let me, let me know your thoughts on that. If you guys would love in that. Yeah, on this show. So we, we, I like to, I like to bounce back between making sure we're getting questions in from the questions from the audience as well as some, some things I like to hear from what's coming on your side. So let's see. Earl said how can your school kids who have to work still keep improving?
Ty Rose (26:49):
Well, you know, a lot of my kids, you know, have to have to work and balance that with soccer and help out around the house. And I have a lot of professional babysitters on my team that are, that are helping out and doing all kinds of stuff. And I have a lot of kids that, you know, are doing really well in school and balancing that with, with soccer as well. And I always tell my students and my soccer players, you'll never have more time than you do right now as a high schooler. And it may seem like you've got a busy, busy plate, but that never changes. You know, when the older you get, the more you'll have on your plate and the more you'll, you'll have to kind of take care of. So it's good to just attack it and try to get as much as you can and in one day done, and he may be work and maybe soccer, but you gotta learn how to manage that time and, and make it happen. You know, if you really want something,
Quincy Amarikwa (27:44):
I love that. To type that. Oh, Wayne said, sorry mate. Had to go miss you. Call me when you of course brother, good to see you. This YouTube brother love you mean it.
Ty Rose (27:57):
And then I always talk after Wayne Rooney. That helps too.
Ty Rose (28:01):
Yeah. Just whatever Wayne Rooney does.
Quincy Amarikwa (28:06):
That's all I'm saying, bro. When I, when he called me up, I said, Oh, this is going to be great. Ty's kids are going to get a kick out of that.
Ty Rose (28:12):
They're going to really like that.
Quincy Amarikwa (28:14):
There you go. That's awesome brother. Ah, to highlight what you talked about, we talk a lot about here over time. So for me, I say, Hey, your most valuable asset is time and what we really focus on here is trying to make mistakes of money, not mistakes of time. So you, you, if you're going to look in the future mint, man, I shouldn't spend that much money or whatever. You go. Okay, but you want to avoid going, man, I wish I didn't waste that much time because you can't get it back. So speaking for the two that you guys, you have 168 hours in every week.
Quincy Amarikwa (28:51):
Okay. You have way more time to get stuff done than you think you do. And the big reason why we created, I don't know, a tie, if you got a chance to kind of go through our training center, I know that there is a lot at you pretty quickly, but those of you can go to perfect soccer skills.com/create account. We have a free time management worksheet that helps you see your time so you can see how much of your time you're wasting because a lot of you aren't working as just like coach Ty has said, you are not doing anywhere near as much. I know everybody's working and some are working harder than others and some don't have as many resources as others, but we all have the same amount of time. But we can all work to get as much out of our time, much, much more out of our time than possible, especially when you're in high school. So was it Wayne said his most valuable asset is the beard time is priceless. He said he's loving to love the beard, bro. You got a few of the beard. Beard is legendary around around Foothill. That's awesome.
Ty Rose (29:57):
I only, I only shave when we lose and so the kids get pretty amped about growing the beard out.
Quincy Amarikwa (30:04):
Okay. So you never shave. That's what you're telling me.
Ty Rose (30:07):
I didn't shave for a while. We lost one time this year, so the beard was getting a little out of control. My wife, not a huge fan of that, but,
Ty Rose (30:16):
But she's a fan. She's a fan of winning. So if there's a straight off, there's a trade off that's decent.
Quincy Amarikwa (30:21):
Uh let's see, we got here, we got a couple more questions in the,
Quincy Amarikwa (30:30):
Okay, let's see. Simple, straight to the point ones. Sonia had asked, how many teams have you coached?
Ty Rose (30:38):
I've got a lot of teams. Any guys in the club soccer world for awhile. Local clubs, soccer world for awhile and I've coached all levels of high school soccer from JV girls, JV boys to to varsity boys. I coach that mostly I Foothill for the last nine years and I coached two years of varsity boys before that at South high, also at school in Bakersfield. And then coached a few clubs, a few club teams as well along the way. So too many to count.
Quincy Amarikwa (31:14):
Gotcha. High schools. Lots of, lots of experience. That's good. Yeah. Let's see what we got here. Okay. We're good now we're going from that to straight into some real stuff. Okay. what does the canceling of DAS in the U S tell us about the future after the pandemic?
Ty Rose (31:35):
You know, it's gonna be tough for everybody right now to, to keep their organizations together and get kids developing whether it's me at the high school level or teams at the da level or club seasons, clutch short. So for a lot of kids it's going to be, it's going to be tough to keep it going. I actually shared some of the, the training videos that you guys had set up for the, you had some like a week one with the Kobe 19. I sent that out to my captains and you know, kids are going to have to find a, find a, find a program and kind of do some things around their house and in their backyards and it's going to be interesting especially for our programs, not just just in the high school level, the da level club, soccer level. The development's going to take a little hit. So it's gonna be interesting.
Quincy Amarikwa (32:33):
Got you. So what what coaches referring to you is are we, we create, sorry, I'm you all over the place now. So Ryan, our B pro general manager jointed last week and he let everybody know about the coven 19 at home weekly training program that we put together for our B pro division. So if you guys go over to perfect soccer skills.com/create account, Earl, if you're in there, if you could type that so I can pin that to the bottom. You guys can go ahead and create your free account and you can get access to that week program that Ty was referring to. There's three levels, basic, intermediate and advanced and it's just so you guys can at least maintain some training from home. As, as everybody who's joined in, in the past knows I was in, I am still in the middle of my free agency year, right?
Quincy Amarikwa (33:23):
This is probably gonna turn into the tire free agency year with how everything is panning out. But being a pro player and without team, a lot of my programs are things I have to do from home and I have to keep myself and hold myself accountable to maintaining my fitness and, and improving. So, you know, I'm in the same boat as a kid who is, you know, maybe in their freshman year of high school playing for their, for their team. And these programs are, are designed to help you improve even when you don't have a lot of stuff around. So to coach's point, consistency is key. And doing this on a weekly brace basis, regardless of how long this pandemic is actually going to last for is extremely important. So yeah, no, thanks for sharing that with the, with your, with your kids. Hopefully, hopefully they get some, some value out of that. And then I want to just say, Oh, Sarah, Oh, Sarah had asked the question about how, how high school kids who have to work keep improving their game. But you had, you'd already answered that. I think I'd said girl assault girl typed it in the comment section. Let me see me.
Quincy Amarikwa (34:37):
Okay, here we go. So haul off the wall. Ask, how are you keeping your players motivated during the pandemic?
Ty Rose (34:46):
It's, it's tough, you know, especially for my seniors, you know, they're going to be in the program next year, but they're miss sounded graduation and they miss out on all the senior stuff that you get to do. And you know, at this time of the year, we're usually starting to get in the weight room and starting to do some touch work, a little bit of fitness, a couple of days a week to supplement what they're doing with their, their other teams. And we're not able to do that, you know, so it's, it's a little bit tough. I'm not going to lie. We're also trying to fundraise, you know, for, for the season. We're always fundraising and that's tough when kids can't be at school asking of teachers and out and about doing that. So there's a lot of challenges, but you know, I keeping community, I have my community with my captains, I have my captains kind of send things out.
Ty Rose (35:35):
So if I see some training stuff that I think it would be valuable, I'll send it out. At the end of the year they get player evaluation forms that the coaching staff goes through and they kind of rate themselves on their performance for the year and we rate them and give them some advice for, for what to do in the off season to kind of address their weaknesses and make them strengths. And so they should have that with them and, and should have some, some things that we do throughout the season that they can kind of go to on their own and, and get after it. So
Quincy Amarikwa (36:11):
I love that. You know, you guys, if you're loving, you're loving the knowledge that coach's dropping in on you right now. Spam that heart button. I'm seeing that love in that everyone spam that heart button. Drop your, I'm in your head emojis cause you're downloading. You guys are downloading that knowledge in your brains, right? Loving that. I'm loving. I'm loving that. Let's see what we got here. Oh, okay. I got a question for you. Do you have any questions for me as a pro? And and just on the coaching side.
Ty Rose (36:46):
Um so I was just wondering, you know, as a pro what has been kind of, how do the health coaches, what have the coaches done that you've connected with the most? What was kind of the thing that they did for you that kind of led you to appreciate them and respect them and what they were, what they were doing?
Quincy Amarikwa (37:10):
Okay. I'll tell you the, the number one most important thing a coach could ever do to connect with their locker room and kids, you know, any level and most don't believe this and they shy away from it sometimes is be honest with the kid, the person. So I'll just speak for me, be honest with me. If you think I'm crap, tell me I'm crap, but also tell me why I'm crap. Right. And be honest with why. If you're not playing me because you don't think I'm good enough and you don't see that there's any opportunity for me to play in the future, don't lie to me and tell me that, Oh yeah, if you keep working hard, you know it's going to work out. No. You say, Hey look, you can keep working hard and you can earn an opportunity. You might earn an opportunity with me in the future.
Quincy Amarikwa (37:56):
But with what I've seen right now, I'm, I'm be honest with you, I don't see it. It doesn't mean you can't change my mind, but changing my mind is going to be really difficult. So if you want to stick here, stay here and try, I respect you for that. But if you feel that you need to go somewhere else, I'll help you move on. And I think most coaches don't do that enough because they get to points in time where they go, ah, well I signed, might need him in a week or two or you know, and they start to make little compromises over time. And I don't think most coaches, I don't think in my experience, right. In my experience growing up, most don't give players enough credit in terms of being smart, smart enough to read between the lines, smart enough to know that they're being lied to you.
Quincy Amarikwa (38:43):
They might not know specifically what it is, but they don't, it doesn't spit right spiel. Right. You know? So for me that's most important. And I'd say it was difficult for coaches to connect with me over my career because of that. Right. There wasn't inherent in it. A lot of times coaches, a coach's job is to learn how to earn the, their, their players trust. And and I'm a big advocate of you earn that over time by the work that you do and how you show it. You know what I mean? So, so that's for me what I, what I think what I think it is. And then weights, weights. Dylan here, just talking crap talking crap. So Quincy, if you learned how to take free kicks yet, of course, bro, I was teaching you how to get that Wayne Wayne Wayne understands. I was giving him them pointers cause I was watching close during the year with him and Lucho. But yeah.
Quincy Amarikwa (39:48):
Yeah. For me that's most important and I've had a lot of, I've had a lot of poor experiences for many different, you know what I mean? Many different reasons in that. But the one where you'll earn my respect as a player is when you, when you'll tell me the truth, even when it's even when it's something I don't want to hear and hopefully a lot of players under. I, I share that because I also want a lot of other, I don't want a lot of players to understand. It's not easy to tell the truth. That's actually the hardest thing to do. So if someone's willing to tell you something, they know you're not gonna like to hear, you got to look at that though. It's difficult as a positive cause that person cares enough to tell you the truth or they care of you so little that they'll tell you the truth to your face, which also helps you.
Quincy Amarikwa (40:36):
Cause at least you know what you need to work on. So that's the way that I look at it. That's how I've navigated and that's how I believe I've gotten to you 11 plus years at the professional level. That's awesome. I like that. Let's see what else we got here. Cassidy said you'll be helping. He'll be helping out a lot more. Oh, I think that was in the middle of a conversation over there. Ryan said Wayne with the banter. Gigi, Gigi said, honesty plus humble equals Ty Rose. Nice. There you go. That put the smile on his face. Look at that. You love in that. Yo, if you guys are, if, if goat, if Ty is your coach or you have any experience with tie drop below what you've learned from him and and share some of your thoughts on, on, on your experience with him. What's something that you've, you found valuable, he's taught you and has helped you in your soccer or life journey? Wayne said he's out a you're my brother. Love you too. I'll I'll connect with you here again soon. Ernie, Ernie, 23, said best score keeper in Foothill hit soccer history or any, those are stats guy for about four seasons. Love. I love that. Let's see. Everyone's to be a, Adria said everyone wants to be in the 11. But coaches should be honest with why someone isn't. Okay. While we're, we're, we're seeing that, what have you found to be the most difficult thing as a coach?
Ty Rose (42:27):
Uh for me, you know, it's I'm just one person and for a while you're in charge of 20, 25 kids. You're one person, you have goalies, you have defenders midfielders forwards. And so for me making my practices flow and be competitive and you know, get what I want out of the kids was, it was a little bit tough. And so I had to
Ty Rose (42:58):
Really sit down and, and, and figure out each session what I want to get out of this and how I want to shape the, the, the training sessions and to get the most out of the boys. And so that was difficult. And for awhile we had really talented kids and it seemed like we'd have one really good year. And then one year where we graduated some seniors and we were had maybe a down year. And so building that program like I talked about earlier where we took the kids as, as freshmen and said, this is what we expect of you and my lower level coaches, you know, sticking with the game plan and just kind of attacking it more in a more systematic way. And pretty soon we're, we weren't having the the down years, you know, it was more consistent. And so I think just building that, that consistency was a big struggle for me initially. I was tired of having good year, a bad year type of thing.
Quincy Amarikwa (44:03):
Yeah, right in that the up and down wave. Okay. So that sounds to me like you, you did some deep self reflection and you had to Uplevel to self-awareness. So the first three steps of our philosophy here is self honesty, self initiative, self accountability. Those are the three S's of self awareness. And, well, we teach this philosophy because it allows us to kind of focus on us and figure out ways in which we can prove ourselves because we might not necessarily be able to control our environment. So it sounds like you had up to years down, years up, years down years. And what was the consistency that you were lacking that wasn't allowing you to have, you know, good years consistently. So when you looked back at yourself, what, what were you missing or what what yeah, what were you missing as a coach and what did you put in place?
Ty Rose (44:55):
Well I think that I've had, I had a kind of rotating door at the lower levels and I wasn't necessarily able to choose, you know, Hey, here's who I am, my lower level coaches to be. And so it was hard to have to implement, you know, what I wanted to do at the lower levels. And so I'd have a good year and I get almost like a new group of kids in and it's like, okay, let's start with our defensive shape and now take half the year. You know, just to get that dialed in. And we weren't always very dynamic authentically and it was like constantly playing catch up. And then once I got my like lower levels dialed in, then the guys come in. W we're, we're starting already on our offensive pattern play and movement and we just became a lot more dynamic. And I had a special group of kids come through the, the program to where the all my best players suddenly were my best leaders and providing good example on the field, off the field, getting good grades, fittest players, hardest working players.
Ty Rose (46:04):
And so you had, you have to have that too. You know, I've had some talented players who weren't necessarily very good leaders and it's caused problems, but when you have your best players who are the hardest workers and it sets that standard for everybody else. And we work hard in the weight room too. I gotta to give a shout out to my trainer. We work hard in the weight room and sometimes I don't think at the high school level, especially coaches pay much attention to that with soccer, but that's a focus of ours. And it may not be that we're necessarily very strong or but we have a mentality that we're stronger than everybody else and that we're gonna not be pushed off the ball and be tough in the air,
Quincy Amarikwa (46:52):
That type of stuff. So that's, that's mental strength. Paul Paul gave the, the, the strong arm emojis. I'm loving that. So let's see what we got here. And I, I see those questions on the negative V, so I'm going to make sure I get to that here in a second. Co Koa tap said leadership isn't built overnight. Mmm. 37. Shannon said that honesty honesty is very important. Zuri had said, thank you for doing this. This is amazing. One thing I learned is that is when you want to get into a higher level, you want to train like you want it. Very true. Haul of the hall of the wall, said he was a wonderful coach and team player. Always a, let's see what we got and I'm going to get to that one. Oh, a RX Ben underscore, sr said, great history teacher and great soccer coach. Why? What can't this man do? I can't grow hair very well, but he can grow a mean beard as long as ever loses. K 29 K 23 Hampton hat asks, what is your advice if you disagree with your coaches analysis or of you or past or passcode, past coach.
Ty Rose (48:13):
So, you know, in our program we, we have some steps set in place of how to address, you know, Hey, you're thinking this, I'm thinking this. And so we set aside and times in practice, you know, Hey, at the end of practice, that's the time to approach the coach and talk about, Hey, I want to get involved more. I want to be on the field more. You're playing me here. I, you know, whatever discussion it's going to be, it needs to be at the appropriate time. And it needs to make sure it doesn't detract from what the team's trying to do. And so I'd say just find that, that appropriate time to, to talk with the coach. And like you said, honesty is kinda the, the best policy. And hopefully you have that, that confidence to just talk to your coach and say, Hey, here's, here's what I see.
Ty Rose (49:03):
Here's what I want to want to be. Do you have any advice? How can I, how can I get to where, where I think I need to go? So you know, that's coach's job is to provide that feedback and you have to have high standards, but you have to have a high support as well. And if you only have support with no standards, you're not going to be a very good coach. And if you only have high standards and no support, you're not going to be a very good coach either. So you got to have both to be, to be good.
Quincy Amarikwa (49:38):
And I I'll kinda, I'll echo that in terms of not every coach is a great coach and, but that doesn't change the fact that you can't do the work on your own to improve. So just like tide said, if you don't have support, well you have supportive this community, you can tap into this community and use it. You've got online coaches who can help you through it and then you also have the philosophy and mindset that you can use to develop it for yourself. I started in Bakersfield, California. I was playing, you know, a YSO. Then I joined my club team. I played high school and if anyone is already known my story, I didn't, didn't know or think I was good enough to play college. So I was going to go walk on for track and field. I got, I got recruited in the last game of my last tournament or my senior year and got picked up, got offered offered, we call it an official visit booked by two coaches.
Quincy Amarikwa (50:36):
I went to Davis was there for academic. It turned into a good career and then pro became an option. So you guys know my path. My goal wasn't to become pro, but what I'm, I've expressed to everybody is the reason why I became pro was because I was focused on being the best player I possibly could every single day. I stepped on the field. That was my only focus because I enjoyed the game. I loved the game and I played I played like today is my last day to play the game. And you know, that mentality led to opportunity and those opportunities turned into eventual more opportunities. But what didn't change was my, my mindset, my approach to the game every day. So hopefully that kind of helps everyone better understand that, you know, you don't need the best coaching, the best support, the best that you develop, the best mindset and that can get you very far.
Quincy Amarikwa (51:35):
And there's not one way to do it, you know, like not one way at all. And hopefully everyone is understanding that and getting a lot out of that. Guys, if you're, if you've been loving what's been happening so far on the live and, and digging everything that's going on, spam that hard button again. Let me see it. Yeah, I love that. Look at that on the, can you see that on your side tie? Yeah, I can. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I love that. I love seeing the energy, everybody. We've got about five minutes, five more minutes before Instagram kicks us off. But let's see what else we got here. K 23 and said, Hey, thanks for the advice. I will use that going forward with my college coach. I have a positive relationship with, with with him, which is good.
Quincy Amarikwa (52:18):
I didn't have a good relationship with my high school coach. Correct. that's, I'm happy to hear that. And though you want to learn from past relationships and negative experiences, you also don't want to allow those negative experiences to prevent you from having a good experience today. So loving that cast Cassie 11 said yes. Thank you guys for your time. I promise. I promise to train my hardest. Your, you are all amazing loving that. Yeah. Everyone's really loving this, this episode, man. I really appreciate you coming on here and, and sharing your, your thoughts, your philosophies, and kind of what's going on on your side. In these last couple minutes, is there anything that you're wanting to share, highlight, promote, shout out, ask, ask the community up to you, man.
Ty Rose (53:11):
I wanted to thank, thank y'all for, for supporting us and have me on. It's been, it's been pretty cool experience. I know my, my my kids are gonna get a kick out of it and also give you a shout out, you know, that soccer ball behind you. You donated a few to the team this year and you know, we, we work really hard to provide our players with the best equipment that, that any team would have. And so stuff like that is just really super cool. And I know you've supported your, your Alma mater before Liberty high school and, and so we, we appreciate you remembering Bakersfield and, and where you came from. And we appreciate that a lot.
Quincy Amarikwa (53:55):
Of course, bro. And I appreciate that man. So did you get, have you gotten our most recent match balls? Cause if you got the, if you got the ones earlier this year you got are the training balls? Yeah,
Ty Rose (54:05):
I think so. Yeah. It looked like the one behind you there. Yeah.
Quincy Amarikwa (54:08):
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So this one was a depends which version on it. So each time we get you guys guys' feedback we go and improve the ball to improve the ball. So we just recently got the match ball completed and finalized. So it's like what do you call it? Hand stitched leather panel one. I like it a lot. We'll make sure we get you guys out. A couple of, a couple of those weren't new ones as well here too. So you got those.
Ty Rose (54:33):
And my, my team, we're trying to if you hit my Instagram handle my team, we're trying to fundraise right now for our, our section championship rings. And so if anyone wants to throw a couple dollars in, I'm, I'm matching every donation under $10 this week. So we're looking for the small donations this week. If anyone wants to chip in a couple of bucks, that'd be awesome.
Quincy Amarikwa (55:00):
Got you. And that is that's go fund me. Okay. And what's, what's your what's, what, what are you trying to reach?
Ty Rose (55:08):
We're trying to get, we've, we're halfway there to three thousand
Quincy Amarikwa (55:11):
$1,000, so 1500 bucks right now, so, no, that's awesome. Yeah guys, so make sure you check out what was your handle?
Ty Rose (55:20):
Tea Rose one for surf T Rose 14 surf and the links in my bio,
Quincy Amarikwa (55:26):
So awesome. T Rose 14 surf. Yeah, so you can go in D donate to the go fund me. So I'm loving that we've got everybody in here saying thank you. Joe Jackson said thank you both for the knowledge bombs. Give me the Jesus' hands. Joe chug a headset. Thank you. Yeah, Sarah had asked what your goal was. Their goal is $3,000. She'd said, great episode. Thank you both. MSL fan page goes out on MSL fan page. I don't know. I don't know who's renting, managing that account. They set it up. So I appreciate your time. MSL gets stronger every day. That's right guys. We're building a community 10 million strong. Yeah, Amy said, building future MLS players right there. Love that. Let's see what else we got here. Ryan had told Franklin, make sure you turn on push notifications so you don't miss out next week.
Quincy Amarikwa (56:27):
Yep. So guys, we go live every Thursday. 6:00 PM PST 9:00 PM EST to break down the MSL mental strength league and get amazing insights from individuals. Just like a coach tie here. The program, the, the free weekly program that we are discussing can be access at the link below. Perfect. Soccer skills.com/create accounts. I think a couple of other things for those of you, I know a lot of the, I know probably a lot of your players are our gamers, right? They play a little bit of FIFA. Yes. They do more than a little bit more than a little bit. So, okay. So once I actually, once I get off the show right here, I'm going to upload the video that told her, just helped us finish editing. It was a, it was the, our first official hashtag the season goes on a MLSP for 2020 challenge.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Earl Edwards is our first official perfect soccer gamer. So he took on the Tommy Thompson of the San Jose earthquakes last week on Twitch and we've got the we've got the Twitch replay. So I'm going to, I'm going to upload that here. So if you guys love FIFA Earl's actually going to be playing the second, the second round of that this Saturday against Toronto. I forget his name. Mark Marquis. Yeah. Earl's already given the, the controller. Earl, who are you playing on, on Saturday? So we had to ask the soccer pro show tonight. The replay will be up tomorrow. And then you guys can also, after you read, download this knowledge and take all these notes, join us over on twitch.com/perfect soccer game or you can watch girl. Hopefully get another w for for the team. But yeah, we've got two minutes here before live officially kicks us off. I want to thank everybody for joining. [inaudible] Did you have anything else that you wanted to share or say? No, just a go, go Trojans heart. Over-Hype love that heart. Over-Hype our brother. Hey, thanks again for joining. I really appreciate it. All right, thank you man. Yup. Bye.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
All right. Yeah. So one minute left. Like I said, big shout out and thanks to Ty for joining in a shared a lot of great insight, especially from the coaches perspective. Guys spam that heart button and tell we make our way out and it's all over. Let me see your eyes and your head emojis and give me some Jesus' hands if you're planning on joining in on the live to Twitch live stream this Saturday with Earl and checking out the the live replay. I'm going to upload the library play over on Instagram and YouTube. So guys go over there, drop some comments, let us know what your funniest moment was from the, from the replay, and also drop your aggregate score predictions for the game on Saturday. The grand prize up up for grabs as a perfect soccer soccer 14 care package.
Quincy Amarikwa (59:19):
So if you guys want to check out what's what comes with that, go to perfect soccer skills.com/the season goes on over like $1,000 in prizes. And then I'll be doing other giveaways and stuff in the comment section as well too. So I got 30 seconds left. That's awkward. Dad gave me the thumbs up. Castillo gave me the, the prayer hands, Zo, Jesus' hands are all gonna drop drop a trash thrashing again. That's correct. That's his plan. But thanks guys. I'll see you in the comments over on YouTube on the perfect soccer gamer that I'll be dropping here in the next, maybe like five, 10 minutes. All right guys. See you guys next week later.